Teaching excellence framework (TEF) results 2017

I don't know how much money has been frittered away on this exercise but to present the reults for institutions as a whole is next to useless. From a lifetime of teaching in higher education I was fully aware of the variations in teaching and learning within departments let alone across departments within an institution. An average figure for a university as a whole is meaningless. It does a disservice to potential students and is another daft and counterproductive league table (not least as a major component of the methodology is the equally pointless NSS league table!). The very least one needs is TEF by subject area (preferably shorn of the NSS element). Anything aggregated beyond subject level is entirely pointless.

TEF complete utter stupidity. Coventry & Derby gold LSE bronze what a joke. Such a flawed exercise I would say it is just another bureacratic piece of nonsense. At some point students and academics should wake up and realise that the reason their fees are going up and pay being frozen or cut in real terms is to fund this kind of crap !

I appreciate The TEF league tables only provide information on the teaching quality of the university as a whole & not per subject, which controversially would incur more money anyway, so you cannot please everyone. As a student myself I think we have the sense to realise this is the case. Despite this I have found TEF information important as it informed part of my decision process. I feel it encourages the uni to take an interest in all its subject areas, not just the ones that are popular. Any neglected Faculty's could potentially bring the average crashing down. I have to say that Kingston Uni has some of the worst teaching results of any university. This has been spiralling down the league tables since I started & from my experiences there I can see why. I deeply regret going to this Uni as I agree with the TEF score, it deserves a bad reputation for its bad teaching quality. I am hoping this will be the motivation to make drastic changes it desperately needs across the whole university. Even though I am within Biosciences school many of my housemates/friends are study degrees across many Faculty's. Some of the teaching standards & stories you hear would make you demand your money back. Kingston is definitely not worth the fees. Despite the yearly falling standards at this University it deeply saddens me that lecturers do not see a problem with their teaching attitudes or standards. In fact, I have stood there opened mouthed while students have been blamed for the failings of this uni! The attitudes from many of the staff at Kingston has totally shocked me. They believe that students think they are entitled to their degrees or better marks because of the extortionate fees we are paying. I think these institutionalised attitudes within the Uni are ingrained in a lot of the lecturers arrogance. It is very simple, the teaching quality is crap & as we are paying a lot of money we are now demanding a better quality service. A prime example of poor teaching standards at Kingston are the finial year dissertation projects most science undergraduate & postgraduate students undertake. Although I have all this to come I have heard of nightmare situations from previous students undertaking for example microbiology projects. This is obviously a very important piece of work & worth a large part of the final marks, yet every year the extremely bad management & disorganisation surrounding these projects has left many students on the brink of a breakdown. This is not the students fault but the lecturers. It is no surprise that every year project titles & equipment need to be organised for these students, so why are the lecturers failing them time & again. My younger brother was going to come to Kingston next year & even though it would have been amazing having him around unfortunately I have recommended he attends another university. As is currently the case I would not recommend this university to anybody looking to study at undergraduate or postgraduate level.